Executor Timeline: Milestones of Estate Settlement

I served as the executor of my late mother’s estate who was predeceased by my father. They were DIY investors, with the Y being “me” having had Power of Attorney for their retirement investments. Both of my parents were of sound mind; they asked me to take over their finances because my father correctly surmised that he was paying a lot of money for little benefit to his wealth advisor at BMO.

I’m in the last days of settling the estate; most of the funds have been disbursed but I’m holding a small amount to deal with unanticipated expenses as I close out the final account.

I figured it might be useful to executors (or executors-to-be) what the various estate milestones were so you can set expectations with beneficiaries. Of course every estate is different, but some of the milestones I passed will potentially be useful nonetheless.

The Starting Line

  • My mother’s will was prepared in the province of Ontario, and that’s where she lived
  • She collected OAS, but not CPP. Since she lived in Quebec for her working life, she contributed to the QPP, a different animal altogether.
  • She had no real estate or large valuable things to sell. She lived in a one-bedroom retirement home with very limited space. Things like properties or vehicles and collectables add a whole other realm of complexity that I didn’t have to deal with.
  • Her primary savings were at BMO Investorline in the form of a RRIF, a TFSA and a non-registered account. These accounts held mostly ETFs, and some individual stocks. I had full control over these accounts while my mother was alive, so I knew exactly what was in them. (And any ACBs for things held in non-registered accounts; brokers are notoriously bad at tracking this sort of thing accurately).
  • Her day to day banking was at CIBC, and I was a joint account holder. Being a joint account holder means I had full control of the funds therein both before and after her death.
  • Her will named me as the sole executor and me and my siblings were the beneficiaries. Having a single executor is so much easier since there’s no coordination needed with anyone else. Some people may think having co-executors is a good idea, but I for one am grateful I didn’t have to try to coordinate the numerous in-person meetings I had to take with somebody else’s schedule.

Milestone 1: Reporting Phase Complete

When somebody dies, you have to tell institutions about it. The funeral home (if you use one, we did) did some of this on our behalf — notably the credit bureaus.

The rest, you have to take care of. A death certificate is almost always required as part of this, and here again the funeral home was helpful. A non exhaustive list of people I had to inform included:

  • Her retirement home (who refunded the rest of month rent once we cleared out)
  • Canada Post (to redirect any mail)
  • Quebec Pension Plan (online)
  • Her insurance provider (for contents insurance)
  • My father’s employer (because she was receiving a small survivor’s pension)
  • Her bank (CIBC)
  • Her broker (BMO Investorline)
  • CRA (to stop benefit payments — GST and Carbon Tax rebates1)2

Reporting a death is not too difficult, but as you can see, even for a simple estate, there are a lot of balls in the air immediately. New email addresses to deal with, forms to fill out, meetings to set up, phone calls to make.

The bulk of this was done in week one.

Milestone 2: Dealing with and distributing funds for named TFSA/RRIF Beneficiaries

With the reporting phase done, the bulk of efforts turned to dealing with BMO Investorline to get access to funds in my mother’s RRIF and TFSA; she had wisely (on the advice of a child of hers) designated beneficiaires for these accounts and hence these funds bypass the entire probate process. It’s something I’ve written about previously.

BMO Investorline punts estates to a dedicated estate department, and this process means you get a dedicated personal case manager3. On paper, this sounds wonderful — an actual person with an actual name and number you can contact! — but in practice it is not a good choice. These individuals seem to handle dozens (hundreds?) of cases simultaneously and getting a hold of one requires setting fixed meetings. I’d prefer to deal with an impersonal, specialized help desk. It would be faster.

There were new forms to fill out indicating the beneficiaries, letters of direction to write to get things moving, signatures of beneficiaries to collect (in ink, no digital signatures4 accepted) — if there are out-of-towners here this can take days/weeks alone.

In my case, 6 weeks after I started working with BMOI, I received a cheque for the amount owed to me as a beneficiary of the RRIF/TFSA. So not lightning fast, but it got done.

Milestone 3: Filing Probate

I decided to DIY this step. I know it’s not the usual (or even recommended5) method, but I really couldn’t stomach the fees being charged for what appeared to be a series of form-filling exercises6. A probated will was needed to access (and trade) funds in the non-registered account which continued to fluctuate in price, pay dividends, and generally putter along without any involvement (or any visibility) on my part.

There’s a few steps that need doing before you can file the paperwork

  • You need to know the exact size of the estate, which in our case meant
    • selling some jewellery, coins and whatnot
    • requesting a statement from BMO Investorline for asset value on date of death
  • Once you know the size of the estate, calculating the probate taxes7 is straightforward using their handy-dandy calculator
  • Figuring out how to pay those probate taxes is another step. In my case, a letter of direction asking for a partial liquidation of non-registered funds8 and waiting a few weeks was enough for BMO Investorline to send me a cheque made out to the Minister of Finance9
  • Then there is the form filling. The information requested isn’t difficult, but understanding what forms are required probably took several hours of reading to make sure I had it right10.
  • The logistics of notarizing and serving the required forms was an interesting challenge, but a roving notary11 who made house calls made things much easier. Recommended!
  • After serving the required form to the beneficiaries, you are obligated to wait 30 days in case there are any legal challenges.

Getting all the way to the point where I was ready to make the trip downtown to the courthouse took about 2 months after the funeral. I was still working full time at this point, so I’m sure it could’ve been done faster.

Milestone 4: Opening Estate Accounts

Estate accounts are required in order for you to deposit any cheques made out to the deceased or the Estate of the Deceased. But oh boy, was this a total PITA.

I started the process with CIBC about 2 weeks after the funeral, at the same meeting where I canceled my mother’s credit card. As mentioned previously, at CIBC, branch employees seem to have very limited familiarity with how estate accounts work and rely on a for-employees-only call centre for help. I would from time to time get weird (and to me, unrelated) questions from the branch about how much money might end up in the account (no idea), when probate would be achieved (again, no idea) and so on. It was an altogether infuriating experience. In the end, when the account was opened (and I can’t make this stuff up), I was handed a Post-It note with the account number scrawled on it. That was it.

This process took 6 weeks from the funeral, which to me is unbelievable. I had expected this to be done during the initial meeting I had with the branch. Perhaps I just got unlucky, no idea. But this was easily among the more painful things I had to endure.

I also did the same with BMO Investorline without really being sure I needed to (in the end, I did). The BMO Investorline process was by comparison reasonably easy, except I had to fill in a bunch of forms as though I was a brand new client which felt rather repetitive. And they were generic forms, so they asked inappropriate-for-an-estate kinds of information, like net worth, annual income, etc etc.

Milestone 5: Regular tax return

My mother died in the first quarter of 2024, which meant her 2023 taxes still needed to be prepared and submitted at the usual deadlines. I’ve been preparing my parents’ taxes for many years at this point, so it wasn’t a big deal, but the additional work came at a not-ideal time. The tax return was filed prior to the April deadline, about a month after the funeral.

Milestone 6: Probate Granted

Once the probate papers are filed at the courthouse, it’s a waiting game with no transparency whatsoever. The clerk at the courthouse estimated it would take six weeks. It actually took five!

Given all the work required to file probate, the actual granting of it is underwhelming. A regular mail containing my mother’s will and form 74C, now embossed with the seal of something or other. No cover letter, nothing else. No Post-It notes, though.

Milestone 7: Filing the Estate Information Return

This is basically a document that lists all the assets that went into the calculation of the probate taxes. And the estate trustee (the person to whom probate is granted) must file this within 180 days after being declared the trustee. In theory, this document could show that you still owe additional taxes, but I was careful during the filing of Probate that all the estate value was accounted for.

This took a few hours online using the Province’s website.

Milestone 8: Reestablishing access to the non-registered funds

All this time, I had no access and no visibility as to what was going on in the non-registered account. After providing proof of probate to BMO Investorline, things moved reasonably quickly and I regained online access to the account. Actually, strictly speaking, I gained online access to the newly created Estate account (new account number, and named The Estate of) , and the first transactions I saw were transfers from the account owned by my mother.

This milestone was achieved about four months after the funeral, or about 2 weeks after being granted probate.

Milestone 9: Preserving the value of the non-registered funds

Up until now, the non-registered account was invested in equities, bonds, some in HISA — not an appropriate level of risk for an account that would be liquidated in the coming months. In the end, this account ended up generating income, but given the level of equities in it, it could have just as easily gone south in the time that had elapsed between the funeral and me regaining access.

And so I immediately sold off all assets and plopped them into USD and CAD HISAs, not cash; no need to let the money sit idle at this point.

That took about 90 seconds 🙂

Milestone 10: First distribution of some non-registered funds

I had a pretty good idea of how much tax would be owing on the final return/estate return, and I could see that the non-registered account had more than enough funds to cover those taxes. And so, I initiated a preliminary distribution of some of the non-registered funds to the beneficiaries.

To do this, I had to convince BMO Investorline to send me cheques, which they eventually did. This meant I could write cheques against cash in the non-registered estate account.

This happened about 5 months after the funeral.

Milestone 11: Conversion to all-cash

My mother died in the first quarter of 2024. Her final return and estate return would therefore be due in 2025. I wanted the estate to be done with generating income in 2024; otherwise, I would have had to file ANOTHER estate return for FY25. And so, in late November, I sold all of the HISAs and left cash in the non-registered account, a situation that pained me greatly.

This took place about 8 months after the funeral, and so I earned HISA interest on the holdings for 4 months to the benefit of all the beneficiaries.

Milestone 12: Filing final return, estate return

I ended up hiring an accountant to do this last bit of paperwork. After reviewing what they did, I realized in hindsight that this was a task well within my capabilities, but the CRA website made it seem way more complicated than it actually was.

In any case, there were two wrinkles involved in preparing the returns, both involving BMO/BMOI. In one case, their HISA unit clearly didn’t talk to their Investorline unit, and they sent T slips to my mother’s former address. I filed a formal complaint about that.

The second issue involved a missing RC249 form which captures the decline in value of a RRIF between day of death and day of liquidation. After some back and forth, BMOI came up with the goods.

At this point, I wrote cheques out to the CRA for the final and estate returns. I was happy that I estimated these pretty precisely.

The final and estate returns were filed in April 202512, about 13 months after the funeral.

Milestone 13: Notice of Assessment for final return

This was received in May 2025, so reasonably quickly after filing it. We’re now at 14 months after the funeral.

Milestone 14: Notice of Assessment for estate return

The CRA really is a dysfunctional organization. Their SLA for processing the estate return is 17 weeks per their website. And that clock doesn’t start until the Final Return Notice of Assessment is complete. I finally got this (and even here, they managed to lose at least one notification letter) in late December 2025. This puts us at 21 months after the funeral.

Milestone 15: Clearance Certificate

The Clearance Certificate (TX19) has an SLA of 120 calendar days. And you should not start this process until the Estate Return has been processed. Everything involving CRA is a serial process, there’s no shortcuts.

Anyway, this is something the accountant did as part of their service. I actually got them to file it before I had hands on the paper copy of the Estate Return Notice of Assessment because I knew that the Estate Return was complete (they mailed the estate a cheque).

CRA, predictably, did not exceed expectations. 120 days after they received the Clearance Certificate application, I got confirmation in the mail. This put us in February 2026, 23 months after the funeral.

Milestone 16: Final distribution and closure of estate accounts

This took a day — checking my math, writing and mailing cheques, sending eTransfers. I had to wait a week for an appointment to close the CIBC estate account (and since no online access, I didn’t really know what the value of it was). I haven’t yet closed the BMO Investorline account because I want to wait until the final final statement is available (I was told by their agents that I would not be able to get access to account statements if I closed the account immediately). But that will be one phone call in mid-March.

Final Thoughts

The process is lengthy but most of the delays are CRA-related. CRA easily added a year to the overall process due to their glacial processing. I’m really not sure I could have come to the finish line much faster.

So executors, a great deal of patience and a superhuman ability to remain on hold without losing your mind is required.

And for beneficiaries, don’t expect payouts very quickly!

I’ll share some specific suggestions on how to set up your estate in order to be kind to your executor in a future post.

  1. Remember those? ↩︎
  2. And to change the address of correspondence to mine. That was probably the hardest thing. I’m not really sure where I went wrong with that. ↩︎
  3. There’s no explicit charge for this at BMO Investorline. I’ve seen some brokers have charges for “estate management” and I can see why. ↩︎
  4. Estate workflows are, for the most part, very analog, even for an online broker like BMO Investorline. Lots of scan and email. Even a fax or two. ↩︎
  5. Especially by lawyers ↩︎
  6. I’m sure there are many horror stories about estates gone to litigation, but I really couldn’t imagine that happening in my case ↩︎
  7. Sorry, “Estate Administration Tax” per the province ↩︎
  8. Knowing what was in the accounts helped somewhat ↩︎
  9. per https://www.ontario.ca/page/estate-administration-tax#section-4 ↩︎
  10. In the end, I needed 74A, 74B, 74C and 74D. ↩︎
  11. In Ottawa, notaryonwheels.ca is an excellent service ↩︎
  12. The due date depends on date of death. ↩︎

News: Wealthsimple Norbert’s Gambit in Beta

Norbert’s Gambit is a way to save money on USD/CAD conversions. (Want to learn more? I’ve written about it here). Most brokers take extra margin points on these conversions, hidden in the relatively crappy exchange rate you actually get. Since a lot of my retirement holdings are in USD, and since I am a cheapskate, I’ve used Norbert’s Gambit at three different brokerages (BMO Investorline, QTrade and Questrade1) over the years.

And now, Wealthsimple has joined the fray. It’s not open to the general public quite yet, but I did get a notification that I can now perform the Gambit on this platform. This brings Wealthsimple agonizingly close to being a contender for my retirement savings business. They only lack (puzzlingly) USD support in RRIF accounts. Otherwise, they check the other boxes in my “need to have” list for any broker:

  • $0 trading commissions
  • Support for USD accounts in non-registered, RRIF, and spousal RRIF2
  • Norbert’s Gambit3

Wealthsimple’s implementation of the Gambit seems to mirror that of Questrade insofar as they charge a $9.95 plus tax fee for journaling shares, a necessary step of performing the Gambit. There are a few oddball wrinkles documented on their website, none of them show-stoppers in my view:

  • Not available on the Wealthsimple app
  • You can only journal DLR/DLR.U. Other cross-listed shares aren’t supported4.
  • The journaling fee is always charged in Canadian dollars, and by the language used on the website, it sounds like you are blocked from doing the journaling unless you have the cash in your account at the time of the request5

Normally I’d give the feature a whirl to see if it’s comparable to the Questrade/QTrade experience, but I only hold CAD assets at Wealthsimple at the moment. It’s not really a complicated thing to do, the only way Wealthsimple could make the experience better is to do the journaling faster. I’ve documented the timelines involved with doing the Gambit at Questrade here.

  1. Other brokers also support it, but I just have no personal experience with it. ↩︎
  2. Wealthsimple doesn’t support this per their website ↩︎
  3. People (especially on Reddit) frequently cite Interactive Brokers as the best game in town to do currency conversions. I did at one time have an IB account, and I can confirm that their currency conversion rates across the board are a pittance, and in most cases will be cheaper (and faster) than even Norbert’s Gambit. HOWEVER, if you want to actually get hold of the cash you’re converting, then you can expect VERY long delays before you are allowed to withdraw the funds. ↩︎
  4. Most people use DLR/DLR.U to do the Gambit but it isn’t obligatory. At BMO Investorline, if you didn’t want to place a phone call, you had to use some other share combination (I usually chose a Canadian bank stock like RY). Not sure this is still true. ↩︎
  5. Questrade lets you carry a negative balance, but of course they will charge interest on that. ↩︎

What’s in my retirement portfolio (Feb 2026)?

This is a monthly look at what’s in my retirement portfolio. The original post is here.

Portfolio Construction

The retirement portfolio is spread across a bunch of accounts:

  • 5 RRIF accounts
    • 3 for me (Questrade, Wealthsimple)1
    • 2 for my spouse (Questrade)
  • 2 TFSA accounts (Questrade)
  • 4 non-registered accounts, (1 for me, 1 for my spouse, 2 joint, all at Questrade)

You will notice that QTrade is no longer in the mix. I successfully moved the last RRIF accounts during the month; I learned a lot in the process. QTrade was the victim in the chase for free money offered by Questrade last year; based on current offerings, I’d say that QTrade still has an edge in terms of user experience over Questrade. I’ll go into more detail in a future post.

The view post-payday

I pay myself monthly in retirement, so that’s a good trigger to update this post. On February 28, this is what it looks like:

The portfolio is dominated by my ETF all-stars, (and if not an all-star, they are probably on the Magnificent Seven ETFs list) but if you’ve been following along, you’ll see a few changes.

  • I dropped XAW since I realized I didn’t need it if I was smarter the ratios of holdings I already owned (XEQT/XIC/XCB). Less is more.
  • I sold XIC instead of HXT in my non-registered account this month to help pay the bills because I reasoned that eliminating its dividend payouts would be better from a tax perspective2.

Plan for the next month

The asset-class split looks like this; you can read about my asset-allocation approach to investing over here.

It’s looking pretty close to the targets I have, which are unchanged:

  • 5% cash or cash-like holdings like ICSH and ZMMK
  • 15% bonds3 (most are buried in XGRO and AOA, rest are in XCB)
  • 20% Canadian equity (mostly based on ETFs that mirror the S&P/TSX — HXT and XIC)
  • 36% US equity (dominated by ETFs that mirror the S&P 500)
  • 24% International equity (mostly, but not exclusively, developed markets)

I am mulling over making a small tweak to these percentages, increasing US equity exposure at the expense of International equity based on some calculations I’ve done4 but this is neither urgent nor will it be massively impactful to the overall picture.

Overall

There is a bit of an anomaly this month that I should mention. A number of readers have questioned my wisdom of contributing monthly to a TFSA in retirement. From a tax-free growth perspective, it would be far better to make the contribution at the beginning of the year. And many studies have shown that lump sum investing provides better returns than spacing them out. And so, I have taken their advice5 and made all my TFSA contributions for the year this month. And since my TFSA is part of my net worth, there’s a bump being caused by that contribution.

And so, net worth overall is up month over month, a two month winning streak.

My VPW-calculated salary also continues its upward trend.

  1. One spousal, one individual. One at Wealthsimple because (a) I like their user experience and may consider them as my primary broker in the future and (b) they offered me free money and a laptop to move some fees their way. I can be bought. ↩︎
  2. HXT does not pay dividends and instead uses swap contracts to convert them into capital gains, which receive better tax treatment for me ↩︎
  3. Referred to as “Income” on the chart above ↩︎
  4. I’ll share those in a future post ↩︎
  5. With thanks to Steven and Sylvain ↩︎

Caution: Transferring RRIFs between brokers

DIY investors include a growing number of RRIF holders (like me). If you want a primer on RRIFs, you can read that here. There are some strange nuances involved with moving RRIFs between brokers which may not be obvious and are not documented anywhere — or if they are, I have yet to find where.

I’ve covered parts of this topic before, (here and here) but this post attempts to summarize the weirdness so you don’t get caught unaware. It is my belief that the cautions outlined below are applicable to ALL brokers, but happy to learn otherwise, just drop me a line at comments@moneyengineer.ca, I read all my mail.

For simplicity, I’m going to refer to the “sending” broker (the broker that currently manages the RRIF) and the “receiving” broker (the broker to whom you’re transferring those same assets).

Caution 1: A sending broker cannot transfer a RRIF unless it has fully paid out RRIF minimum for that year.

As RRIF aficionados will know, at the end of the calendar year, a new “RRIF minimum” amount is calculated by the broker based on the market value of the RRIF at that time and the age of either the RRIF owner or the spouse of the RRIF owner. This is a well-known fact. What is perhaps not so well known is that the broker who holds the RRIF at the start of the year is obligated to pay out the full amount of the RRIF minimum, even if that RRIF is transferred in the course of the year1.

This has implications, especially if you attempt the transfer early in a calendar year:

  • You are going to end up with “extra” cash that you weren’t expecting. You’ll have to be prepared to do something with that money, but what? Leave it as cash? Invest it in a HISA? Invest it in an all-in-one?
  • This early windfall also means that your potential tax-free growth2 is lost.

Caution 2: Waiting past end of November to initiate a RRIF transfer runs the risk of tying up your RRIF funds for multiple months

“Fine”, you think, “if I wait until late in the year to transfer my RRIF, I can avoid the problems inherent in Caution 1”. This is what I thought, too. I was, again, wrong.

There seems to be an industry-wide pause on RRIF transfers that starts in late November and lasts until January of the following year. I’ve seen more than one mention of it. Questrade’s message when I attempted to transfer-in my RRIF to them was

Please be advised that RRIF/LIF account transfers are subject to the industry-wide cut-off date, November 28, 2025. This cut-off date is not specific to Questrade, but is arranged and agreed upon by all Canadian financial institutions to ensure yearly payments are made in an orderly and timely manner to all account holders.”

It appears I got extremely unlucky: the transfer STARTED before November 28th, but failed to fully complete before the deadline. Performing a transfer is a multi-step process using a service called “ATON”34. You can read all about how ATON works over here.

In my case, it took until mid-February for the transfer to complete. During that time, the account was in limbo, and no payments could be made. For someone who expects to be paid monthly from a RRIF, this was a bit of a problem.

Advice: Initiate RRIF transfers before November 1.

This ought to give enough time for the transfer to complete before the cut-off date. And minimizes the amount and time you have “extra” money floating around. You can help make sure your transfer goes as expected:

  • Make sure the assets you hold are supported at both institutions. GICs are a frequent problem. So are bank-backed HISAs. If you hold assets like that, do yourself a favour and sell them before you initiate the transfer so that they are just cash.
  • If you hold fractional shares in your account5, get rid of them by selling off the fractions or buy more so that you have whole shares. From what I’ve read, fractional shares are a construct that is broker-specific and will cause issues when you attempt to transfer them.
  • Make sure you have enough cash in your RRIF so that the sending broker can pay out your RRIF minimum before the transfer begins.

Happy investing. If a transfer really goes astray, it looks like OBSI can help.

  1. This CRA link seems to be the one that states this. ↩︎
  2. Since the average gains of the market are positive, I’m always going to make the assumption that it’s better to be invested than not. You could of course get lucky and avoid a big market downturn because your RRIF cashed early, but that’s not how I think about investing. Time in the market is always better than timing the market, per Ken Fisher ↩︎
  3. “Account Transfer Online Notification”, apparently per https://cffim-fcmfi.ca/wp-content/uploads/aton-best-practices-guide-Jan-15-2021-v9.9.pdf ↩︎
  4. I am indebted to Financial Wisdom Forum users NorthernRaven and OptsyEagle for their help in understanding what went wrong in my case ↩︎
  5. Wealthsimple (for all shares/ETFs) and Questrade (for some US shares/ETFs) both offer this option. There may be others. ↩︎

Death, Taxes and Estates: Endgame part 1

I’ve had the dubious privilege of serving as the executor of the estate of my late mother, who was predeceased by my father. I’ve been documenting my journey along the way (previous instalment here).

This instalment is subtitled “Endgame” because late last week I received a Clearance Certificate from CRA. The Clearance Certificate allows me as the executor to distribute the funds in the estate to the beneficiaries without worrying that the CRA will come knocking on my door at some future date looking for taxes1.

So now it is time to move money around from estate to beneficiaries, close accounts and shred the piles of paper in the filing cabinet. Money exists in three places: a CIBC bank account (not an estate account), a CIBC estate account, and in a BMO Investorline estate account.

CIBC Bank Account

Thanks to the advice of a friend who went through this before me, I had a joint chequing account with my mother. It was her account, and I never touched it, but when she died, the account became mine completely, no different than the other chequing account I hold at CIBC. This arrangement proved very handy in the early days of the estate, as I was able to pay funeral expenses out of this account without being out of pocket myself. The balance was low here, and a few e-Transfers to the beneficiaries later, the funds were cleared. A call to CIBC telephone banking (a surprisingly painless experience), and this account was closed from the comfort of my couch.

BMO Investorline

The vast majority of the estate funds are held at BMO Investorline, since I was acting as my parents’ DIY advisor for about 10 years. When my mother died, her RRIF and TFSA passed to her beneficiaries outside of the probate process (you’ve done this, right? Read more here). Her non-registered funds were converted into a brand new estate account and all the assets were transferred in kind. I could not access this account until I had a probated will. With full access, I eventually converted all the holdings into non-interest bearing cash; all that happened over a year ago (December 2024, to be exact). The account has been largely dormant since then, although I did pay the whopping tax bill for my mother’s Final Return2 from it.

Moving the funds out of BMO Investorline couldn’t be easier; thanks to their AccountLink service, you can write cheques against the cash balance held in your non-registered Investorline account. They do charge $1 for each transaction after the first 2 in any calendar month, so I have to make sure I leave enough cash behind to deal with that3.

CIBC Estate Account

Estate accounts are required to deposit cheques made out to the estate. One possible source of such a payment is CRA4, the other is death benefits from CPP/QPP and/or life insurance policies. My experience with the creation and management of a CIBC estate account was a total disaster. Something that should be relatively straightforward is inexplicably very labour intensive. The reasons are probably only knowable to CIBC, but I’ll give my perspective here:

  • The workflow has not been updated in decades. Opening an estate account required me to make an appointment at the bank. At this appointment, I sat in a chair in an office while I watched the bank employee type my information into some sort of online form. My involvement at this meeting was limited to producing a death certificate and repeating answers to questions that the bank already had in their systems (my name/address etc etc).
  • The branch employees do not understand how estate accounts work and they rely on a centrally located help desk to guide them through the process. I know this because the branch employee inadvertently gave me the number to this help desk and the very helpful employee I spoke to there was confused that a customer rather than a branch was calling.
  • There are no electronic records, no electronic access to estate accounts. Deposit a cheque? Visit the bank. Want the balance? Visit the bank. It’s all very circa 1970.
  • And, lastly, for all this, they have the gall to charge a $5 monthly service fee for “record keeping”.

Anyway, I am guessing that all the major banks are terrible with estates, but it’s hard to imagine a worse experience than with CIBC.

So, to close this account, I need an appointment (of course). The soonest one I could get at my local branch was a week away. I’ve compiled all the materials needed to unlock the funds (probated will, death certificate, blood sample) so I’m hoping this is a “one and done” kind of visit, but I’m not holding my breath on that one.

What’s especially annoying about the estate account is that it has a relatively small amount of money in it, growing smaller monthly thanks to the monthly service fee.

But this chapter is nearly over. Make no mistake, serving as an executor is a lot of work and requires a lot of patience.

  1. Per https://www.canada.ca/en/revenue-agency/services/tax/individuals/life-events/doing-taxes-someone-died/clearance-certificate.html: A clearance certificate will allow you, as the legal representative, to distribute assets without the risk of being personally responsible for unpaid amounts the person who died, estate, trust, or corporation might owe to the CRA. ↩︎
  2. RRIFs and non-registered accounts generate a lot of tax since they are assumed to be sold and converted to income in the hands of the account holder on the day of death. It’s nearly unavoidable, but I wrote a bit about reducing that tax bomb here. ↩︎
  3. I can only imagine how much work it would be should I end up needing to clear a negative balance in a BMO Investorline Estate account. I wouldn’t know where to begin, ↩︎
  4. In my case, the estate tax return had a refund. Not really sure why, one would have presumed that paying thousands of dollars to an accountant would result in a penny-perfect return, but you’d evidently be wrong about that. ↩︎